It's the 53rd episode of ONE HEAT MINUTE, the podcast examining Michael Mann's 1995 crime epic HEAT minute by minute (52:00-53:00). Host Blake Howard is joined by TV writer, script consultant and film reviewer Lisa Malouf. Blake and Lisa discuss Van Sant's death wish and clearly shitting oneself, a lifetime of characters DNA  permeating through performances and the psychology of the this game of cop versus crook. 

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Lisa Malouf

Lover of classic film history, theatre, philosophy. Film Script consultant. Kids' TV: scriptwriter, content producer, casting. Film reviewer @limerickreview

Twitter: @lisamalouf

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